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GScheid
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Posted - Feb 25 2009 :  11:52:08 AM  Show Profile Send GScheid a Private Message
I went to a former parish today and they did this??? Remind us we are in a desert???

Gerry

QUAERITUR: removing holy water during Lent
CATEGORY: ASK FATHER Question Box — Fr. John Zuhlsdorf @ 3:54 pm

I have had a couple questions via e-mail already about dopey plans in some parishes to empty holy water fonts during Lent and even dopier plans to replace the holy water with sand or dirt.

Anyway, some time ago I wrote an Ask Father response to this which I now repost.

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Lately I have read some items about the blogosphere that the , persists in some places.

Q: Our Sunday bulletin states that Holy Water will be removed from Ash Wednesday on during Lent to remind us that we are in a desert. What is the latest rule for removing Holy Water? It used to be done on Good Friday.

A: Good question! Thanks for asking this. No doubt thousands.. maybe millions of people will be subjected to all kinds of rubbish during Lent. One day I should relate the stupid things we had to endure in seminary about this very thing of sand in the holy water stoup.

Any way… This is a response from the Congregation for Divine Worship and Discipline of the Sacraments about this question. Enjoy.

The emphases are mine:

Prot. N. 569/00/L

March 14, 2000

Dear Father:

This Congregation for Divine Worship has received your letter sent by fax in which you ask whether it is in accord with liturgical law to remove the Holy Water from the fonts for the duration of the season of Lent.

This Dicastery is able to respond that the removing of Holy Water from the fonts during the season of Lent is not permitted, in particular, for two reasons:

1. The liturgical legislation in force does not foresee this innovation, which in addition to being praeter legem is contrary to a balanced understanding of the season of Lent, which though truly being a season of penance, is also a season rich in the symbolism of water and baptism, constantly evoked in liturgical texts.

2. The encouragement of the Church that the faithful avail themselves frequently of the [sic] of her sacraments and sacramentals is to be understood to apply also to the season of Lent. The "fast" and "abstinence" which the faithful embrace in this season does not extend to abstaining from the sacraments or sacramentals of the Church. The practice of the Church has been to empty the Holy Water fonts on the days of the Sacred Triduum in preparation of the blessing of the water at the Easter Vigil, and it corresponds to those days on which the Eucharist is not celebrated (i.e., Good Friday and Holy Saturday).

Hoping that this resolves the question and with every good wish and kind regard, I am,

Sincerely yours in Christ,
[signed]
Mons. Mario Marini [Now the Secretary of the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei]
Undersecretary

One of these days I will tell you about the hijinx over holy water in Lent we had in seminary, the infamous Saint Paul Seminary, in Minnesota, where I did a couple years of hard time. But that’s another story.

About the holy water thing.

Holy water is a sacramental.

We get the powerful theology of its use in the older ritual in the prayers for exorcism of the water and salt used and then the blessing itself. I wrote about this in an article for the WDTPRS series and it is on this blog.

The rite of blessing holy water, in the older ritual, is powerful stuff. It sounds odd, nearly foreign to our modern ears, especially after over 30 years of being force fed ICEL pabulum.

Holy Water is a power weapon of the spiritual life against the attacks of the devil.

You do believe in the existence of the Enemy, ... right?

You know you are a soldier and pilgrim in a dangerous world, ... right?

So why… why… why would these liturgists and priests REMOVE a tool of spiritual warfare precisely during the season of LENT when we need it the most??

Holy water is a sacramental.

It is for our benefit.

It is not a toy, or something to be abtained from, like chocolate or television.

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DeniseLawson
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Posted - Feb 28 2009 :  08:56:15 AM  Show Profile Send DeniseLawson a Private Message
This comes up every year and it is a by-product of the liberal boomer "spirit of" crowd, which thankfully is getting older. I hope and pray their nonsense doesn't outlive them.

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Pro-life Sarah
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Posted - Mar 04 2009 :  5:16:21 PM  Show Profile Send Pro-life Sarah a Private Message
I've always hated walking into a church that didn't have it during Lent. I don't know why they even try to rationalize it....Lent is supposed to be a season of grace and growth....why take the tools of such away?

Take Care and God Bless,
Sarah

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jennyloves
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Posted - Aug 18 2010 :  03:02:52 AM  Show Profile Send jennyloves a Private Message
we should remember our past to celebrate those things.




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