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JohnF
Mary's Servant


USA
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Posted - Mar 29 2008 :  02:24:10 AM  Show Profile Send JohnF a Private Message
Recently, I've stumbled upon several web sites that publish novenas and testimonials from visitors in a manner that is new to me.

For instance, this Novena to St. Claire:

Ask for 3 favors 1 business, 2 impossible. Promise to publish or circulate. Your request will be granted after the 3rd day. Never known to fail. Say 9 Hail Mary's and the following prayer for 9 days in front of a lighted candle.

God of mercy you inspired St. Claire with the love of poverty by the help of her prayers. May we follow Christ in poverty of spirit and come to the joyful vision of your glory in the kingdom of heaven.We ask this thru our Lord Jesus Christ your Son, Who lives and reigns with the Holy Spirit, One God forever and ever. Amen.

Pray if you believe or not. Publish it on the 9th day. This is a powerful Novena.Your request will be answered no matter how impossible.


The web sites publish hundreds of testimonial statements from people who have prayed the novena with great results.

For example:

thank you, saint claire! you are answering my prayer! today i received an invitation to join jeffrey and his son for the evening! all i have hoped for is unfolding for us thanks to your loving guidance and blessing! all went very well on Saturday Feb. 16th - grandma esther's birthday!


So, what do you think?

Is this kind of prayer compatible with legitimate Catholic teaching?



John

We must not doubt for even a moment,
But have trust in the power of God's mercy.
-Saint Faustina

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Posted - Mar 29 2008 :  06:22:04 AM  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
Sounds strange to me, what about those favours that are not the will of the Lord also a novena is 9 days why get it granted after 3 day doesnt make sense


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JohnF
Mary's Servant



USA
428 Posts

Posted - Mar 29 2008 :  2:44:02 PM  Show Profile Send JohnF a Private Message
what about those favours that are not the will of the Lord

Yes. I felt the same. I've never seen a novena that did not include a proviso for God's will.

John

We must not doubt for even a moment,
But have trust in the power of God's mercy.
-Saint Faustina
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Pro-life Sarah
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Posted - Mar 29 2008 :  5:37:13 PM  Show Profile Send Pro-life Sarah a Private Message
I think it is more superstitious and playing on the Catholic belief of Novenas. I think it is a bit dangerous in the form of presumption, as sometimes the things we want or think we need are not part of God's will. God promises to answer prayer, and novenas promise answered prayer... but in my opinion, true novenas promise answered prayer which doesn't necessarily mean it will be answered in the way we think or want, but in the way that we know we can trust is of and from God for His will and the greater glory of His kingdom. Many people send me via email the St. Theresa novena that is part of a prayer chain and it says bad things will happen if it is broken... I gently email the people back that, yes I believe in the power of St. Theresa, but I don't believe in superstition or that St. Theresa would ever send bad things ones way if you chose to not do something, so please don't count me in on the chain.... I think a lot of that goes around on the internet and it isn't of God though it seems to be. Say a prayer to the HOly Spirit and see how you feel in your heart when you come across these things. If it doesn't feel right, it probably isn't. You will know. Sad, isn't it, that people twist things around? Just my two cents....

Take Care and God Bless,
Sarah

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JohnF
Mary's Servant



USA
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Posted - Mar 30 2008 :  02:47:02 AM  Show Profile Send JohnF a Private Message
"Novenas are nothing more or less than forms of insistent prayer. God does not need nine prayers or even one prayer to know what we really need, but mysteriously, Christ tells us to pray incessantly and assures us that God ... will provide what we really need, not merely what we simply want."

---The Church's Most Powerful Novenas, Our Sunday Visitor
Nihil Obstat, Imprimataur

John

We must not doubt for even a moment,
But have trust in the power of God's mercy.
-Saint Faustina
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BARBAQUED
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USA
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Posted - Apr 30 2008 :  3:07:05 PM  Show Profile Send BARBAQUED a Private Message
Novenas are a very special way to present your needs and wants before God but they are not the only way we can approach Him. Another custom many Catholics and other Christians have is to always humbly add the phrase “if it is your will”, also not necessary. The truth is we can approach God and ask Him for anything. Scripture tells us to Boldy approach the throne of God.
Hebrews 4:16
Let us then fearlessly and confidently and boldly draw near to the throne of grace (the throne of God's unmerited favor to us sinners), that we may receive mercy [for our failures] and find grace to help in good time for every need [appropriate help and well-timed help, coming just when we need it]. (AMP)
When including if it’s God’s will, many people refer to Jesus in the garden when He says
Luke 22:42
saying, "Father, if You are willing, remove this cup from Me; yet not My will, but Yours be done."
But the point missed here is that Jesus knew exactly what the fathers will was. Even this He asked, but He was obedient to the Fathers will that we may be saved.
Ask anything from the Father, start a personal relationship with Him right now. Don’t wait for the big stuff, ask Him the best way to drive home from work, He will guide you.

Ask what you need or want, you will get an answer!
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BARBAQUED
Mary's Servant



USA
454 Posts

Posted - Apr 30 2008 :  3:15:15 PM  Show Profile Send BARBAQUED a Private Message
I just thought of another thing I once heard a priest say. “Ask Mary to intercede” He said, think of it as if you were a farmer, and you had grown a really nice apple to give to the King. When you arrived at the throne room you are met by The Kings mother and she takes the apple from you, polishes it and places it upon a silver platter. Same prayer but The Blessed Mother, our intercessor presents our case in a way most pleasing to the Lord.
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Vic
Mary's Servant



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Posted - May 31 2008 :  9:37:50 PM  Show Profile Send Vic a Private Message
Numbers have significance in the Church. 9 is the number of days Mary and the Apostles waited and prayed in the upper room. Thus the origin of the 9 day novenas. It is an imitation of Mary and the Saints.

God bless, Vic

Victory of the Cross
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