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Antonio A
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Posted - Feb 05 2009 :  11:37:46 PM  Show Profile Send Antonio A a Private Message
Well, and the controversy continues,

Vatican's Archbishop Burke, No Communion for Catholic Politicians who Support Abortion
By Hilary White
2/5/2009
LifeSiteNews (You must be logged in to see this link.)

"A Catholic who publicly, and after admonition, supports pro-abortion legislation is not to receive Holy Communion and is not to be given Holy Communion."



ROME (LifeSiteNews.com) - Archbishop Raymond Burke, in an exclusive interview last week, told LifeSiteNews.com that the issue of pro-abortion politicians continuing to receive Holy Communion is still one of major concern and that it is the duty of bishops to ensure that they are refused.

He told LifeSiteNews.com, "I don't understand the continual debate that goes on about it. There's not a question that a Catholic who publicly, and after admonition, supports pro-abortion legislation is not to receive Holy Communion and is not to be given Holy Communion."

"The Church's law is very clear," said Archbishop Burke, who was appointed last year by Pope Benedict XVI as the head of the Church's highest court, the Apostolic Signatura. "The person who persists publicly in grave sin is to be denied Holy Communion, and it [Canon Law] doesn't say that the bishop shall decide this. It's an absolute."

Among the US bishops directly to address the issue, Archbishop Burke was one of around a dozen who vigorously supported a directive of the Vatican that said pro-abortion Catholic politicians "must be refused" Holy Communion if they attempt to receive at Mass. Others have refused to abide by the Vatican instruction and the Church's own Code of Canon Law, saying they would rather focus on "education" of such politicians.

Archbishop Burke called "nonsense" the accusation, regularly made by some bishops, that refusing Holy Communion "makes the Communion rail a [political] battle ground". In fact, he said, the precise opposite is true. The politician who insists on being seen receiving Holy Communion, despite his opposition to the Church's central teachings, is using that reception for political leverage.

In 2004, when self-proclaimed Catholic and candidate for the Democrat party, Sen. John Kerry, was frequently photographed receiving Holy Communion despite his vigorous support of abortion, the US Bishops Conference issued a document which said only that it is up to individual bishops whether to implement the Church's code of Canon Law and refuse Communion. The issue has remained prominent with the appointment of Joe Biden, another pro-abortion Catholic politician, as Vice President of the United States of America.

Archbishop Burke recalled previous experiences with Kerry, pointing to the several occasions when the senator was pictured in Time magazine receiving Communion from Papal representatives at various public events. Burke said that it is clear that Kerry was using his reception of Holy Communion to send a message.

"He wants to not only receive Holy Communion from a bishop but from the papal representative. I think that's what his point was. Get it in Time magazine, so people read it and say to themselves, 'He must be in good standing'."

"What are they doing? They're using the Eucharist as a political tool."

In refusing, far from politicising the Eucharist, the Church is returning the matter to its religious reality. The most important reasons to refuse, he said, are pastoral and religious in nature.

"The Holy Eucharist, the most sacred reality of our life in the Church, has to be protected against sacrilege. At the same time, individuals have to be protected for the sake of their own salvation from committing one of the gravest sins, namely to receive Holy Communion unworthily."

Archbishop Burke also dismissed the commonly proffered excuse that such politicians need more "education". Speaking from his own direct experience, he said that Catholic politicians who are informed by their pastors or bishops that their positions in support of pro-abortion legislation makes it impossible for them to receive Holy Communion, "I've always found that they don't come forward."

"When you talk to these people, they know," he said. "They know what they're doing is very wrong. They have to answer to God for that, but why through our pastoral negligence add on to that, that they have to answer to God for who knows how many unworthy receptions of Holy Communion?"

Archbishop Burke said that the issue had been debated enough. He rejected the idea that the matter should be left to the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, saying the Conference has no authority in the matter. "This is a law of the universal Church and it should be applied."

"I think this argument too is being used by people who don't want to confront the issue, this whole 'wait 'til the Conference decides'...well the Conference has been discussing this since at least 2004. And nothing happens."

When asked what the solution was, he responded, "Individual bishops and priests simply have to do their duty. They have to confront politicians, Catholic politicians, who are sinning gravely and publicly in this regard. And that's their duty.

"And if they carry it out, not only can they not be reproached for that, but they should be praised for confronting this situation."

Antonio A. Obregón

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JRJ
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Posted - Feb 06 2009 :  10:15:46 AM  Show Profile Send JRJ a Private Message
It seems to me that the underlying issue here is the politicization of everything in the United States. The Bishops have appeared to be afraid to anger the political class. So what if we have to pay taxes?? Better to pay in this life than the next. I hope we live to see Archbishop Burke receive the red hat. He is a real man and really cares for our souls.

Jennifer Jaeger
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GScheid
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Posted - Feb 07 2009 :  10:06:28 AM  Show Profile Send GScheid a Private Message
Why is he the only one and his calls are from Rome?

Who is doing this here? Before the election a few Bishops stood up but where are they?

Are the ones who voted for Obama running the store?

Burke is saying if you support abortion (non LIFE stand) you should be denied Communion--what about all these 'catholics' who voted for Obama?

Gerry

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JRJ
Mary's Servant



USA
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Posted - Feb 07 2009 :  4:20:30 PM  Show Profile Send JRJ a Private Message
Gerry - it's pretty frustrating, isn't it? The advice of some good Catholic men has led me to the conclusion that we must fast and pray. I am lacking in the fasting department so far but did sign up for a couple of slots in the catholicculture.org 30-day Rosary for the conversion of President Obama and his wife to the culture of life. I'm also praying every day for the conversions of Speaker Pelosi and Senator Ted Kennedy. You might choose a member of the government with particular significance in your area?? Things look dark now, but we don't know what God may be preparing. Let us pray!

Jennifer Jaeger
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Antonio A
Maryhead



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Posted - Feb 08 2009 :  12:26:31 AM  Show Profile Send Antonio A a Private Message
GScheid,

"...what about all these 'catholics' who voted for Obama?"

Gerry

The bishops were unable to stand up and tell Catholics clearly how sinful it is to vote for a pro abortion candidate, because many of them also voted for the man. Also, it takes a back bone to stand up to the media and to a popular President and martyrs the bishops are not, at least NOT the majority of them.





Antonio A. Obregón
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DeniseLawson
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Posted - Feb 08 2009 :  2:56:37 PM  Show Profile Send DeniseLawson a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by GScheid

Why is he the only one and his calls are from Rome?

Who is doing this here? Before the election a few Bishops stood up but where are they?

Are the ones who voted for Obama running the store?

Burke is saying if you support abortion (non LIFE stand) you should be denied Communion--what about all these 'catholics' who voted for Obama?

Gerry

Keep Christ in Christmas!



Archbishop Chaput has consistently preached a pro-life message. We also are hearing from Bishop Martino with more regularity, too. Of course, the big ones - like the Archdiocese of San Francisco, from which Pelosi hails, and the diocese from which Biden comes, as well as the Archdiocese of Washington, are conveniently silent when the rubber meets the road...

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Antonio A
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Posted - Feb 10 2009 :  02:14:15 AM  Show Profile Send Antonio A a Private Message
DeniseLawson,


Archbishop Chaput has consistently preached a pro-life message. We also are hearing from Bishop Martino with more regularity, too. Of course, the big ones - like the Archdiocese of San Francisco, from which Pelosi hails, and the diocese from which Biden comes, as well as the Archdiocese of Washington, are conveniently silent when the rubber meets the road...

It's a mystery to me why the Holy Father does not give Washington, New York, and Los Angeles to folks like Burke, Martino, or Chaput.



Antonio A. Obregón
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